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Pinegrove Private Event Center
7486 Beech Hill Road
Stockton, NY 14784
Welcome to the Pinegrove Event Center in Stockton, New York!
Pinegrove is the home of Jill (AKA Xyaida), and Ray in rural Stockton, New York. It is Located on a beautiful almost 40 acre lot, which has been preserved as naturally as possible for the last 20+ years.
We try to be as Green as possible. We have a thorough breakdown for our trash / recycling. Glass, Plastic, Organic, Paper, Metals, and Utter Garbage are our present breakdown categories. Please remember to return the lids on the Utter Garbage and the Organic waste! Or you can pack your trash to dispose of at home.
Cellular phone service is rather unreliable here on the grounds. If there is an emergency you'll have to come to the Main Office or find someone who does have service.
As of Spring 2013 we are unable to provide showers. A new double outhouse for guests has been completed.
It is our intention to have a few Fundraising Events to help us to be able to provide more amenities in the future.
Also, potable water is an issue. The natural spring is located 5 miles from here at the Hartfield Fire Company on Elmwood.
Who doesn't love the warm roaring glow of a good campfire? Small personal or ritual campfires are allowed at your campsite.
Please make sure to have a 6' radius open and clear of debris. We love the idea of new sites being made. So show us where you wish to start a fire pit. This way we can continue to make that area a regular site if possible.
We would also like to add these two very simple, but very important fire safety rules: First, do not leave any flame unattended at your site. The bonfires will be tended by those on property as well as your group.
Second, the worst thing you can do is leave a lit candle in a tent. It only takes seconds for one to go up, and possibly ignite nearby tents.
Tents must be at least 3 feet apart,and at least 8 feet from any open flame such as a fire pit or tiki torch. Fire extinguishers, and/or buckets filled with sand or water are highly recommended. We DO have a fully stocked fishing pond. It is NOT safe for swimming at this time! Fishing is permitted for those interested except during 'Pinegrove' event weekends.
We welcome all suggestions on how to make our land better. So feel free to leave a comment on this website or leave word in our Suggestions can in the Main Office.
And now, a letter from your Hostess:
I get asked all kinds of questions regarding Pinegrove and what we have going on here. So after some internet weather related issues, I decided to take the time to share some of this information with you. Here is the Story of Pinegrove …
Pinegrove was what the land owners called this place for the past 30 years. When we moved out here we heard the stories of how Joan wanted to hold group camping out here but had no idea how to go about such things. But she also wanted to have her privacy and solitude which this land provides.
So over our first winter we started thinking about how to get the group camping thing started and maybe some workshop oriented events planned. We got them all created but hadn’t figured out how to have them come to fruition.
Just before festival season for us out here, a friend of ours John Foster suggested to us to have a Pig Roast. Everyone LOVES a Pig Roast! We have another old friend of ours who has been doing these for 30 years plus and he may be available. I called John-John McLeod and found out he could, and when, and started making the plans. We had 5 weeks! One of the guys who hangs out here, Darrin Morehouse, suggested he may be able to talk to a few people and maybe get a couple bands to come play – another thing which did fall into place. Ray threw together a make shift stage and away we went.
Our whole goal was to try to raise some funds to be able to build a stage out back so we could do this kind of thing a couple times a year. If we do it twice annually, with a 3,000 people limit, we can then be able to maintain the property and be available for the smaller stuff we originally were aiming for. We really want to eventually host Country Weddings considering we have a few Ordained Ministers connected with Pinegrove.
Now, the event in August went really well. We had new folks, four bands [‘Child of Folly’, ‘Cain’, Emcee MD’, and ‘Armageddon’], people prepared to help make it happen and others making sure it did safely and nicely for all – but most of all – we had such diversity become Family! The bonds from the event have made friendships which are strong and surprising. The pig … anyone there would totally suggest you give it a try (it really was THAT good!)! And even the folks who came together to help make it happen were from all over – Myrtle Beach, SC – Youngstown, OH – Buffalo, NY – and even Wheeling, WV! Pinegrove Love really is!
So, after the event ended last time, a few of us were sitting out back having that dream big moment all together; ‘We got this’, ‘We should get workshops going’, ‘We should make this a full weekend’, ‘We should have vendors’, ‘We should get involved with the locals and have them have a way to sell their wares too’, ‘We should get bigger names for the bands’ --- That last one is where this Pig Roast blew up! I mentioned how my son drummed with one of the guys who plays in Rusted Root over at the Great Blue Heron a few years ago; maybe I could find a way to talk to them. Another friend said, “OK, and I’ll get in touch with Bob Weir”. I tried getting them but for our first time it was too far out of the budget. My friend on the other hand was kidding – but if he hadn’t said it I wouldn’t have tried or found out this IS possible! Others in the group had made suggestions during that pow-wow and I wrote them down.
Within a couple weeks I sat down with all my notes and the feedback from everyone. I had talked to some of the bands to see if they were interested in coming back. ‘Child of Folly’, ‘Cain’, and ‘EmCee MD’ all agreed and onto a goal of 12 more for a good entertainment lineup. I started on the list of suggestions and tried to find out the details. I then reached out to one of my Torch Crew at Starwood Festival who is a musician, Laura Sabo, and asked what bands she was in and if they might be interested in playing my Stage Fundraiser. She gave me the info and with a few back and forth emails we add ‘Marmalade Brigade’, ‘Shiny Old Soul’, and ‘Strange Creature’ out of Cincinnati, OH. Also ‘Throne of Wilderness’ a Celtic Rock band out of Buffalo, NY decided to join in on our mayhem. The guys of ‘Pine Fever’ figured it out so they also could come play on Friday and again, totally supportive of our goals. ‘The Zygotes’ also friends of ours chose they were in. Now the search continued.
As the planning was in the dream stage we had brought up doing piñatas for the big kids later at night at least one night by the fire. Have it so people can play and have fun and allow themselves to be a part of the Community we strive so high for. As it all started we started thinking of odd things to get it more interesting – and that same night we started looking for a special Headliner which would be playful and not normal for the festivals we had all been to. Out of the blue someone threw out there “John Valby”! The videos got started up and everyone was absolutely loving the idea so the search started right then and there and the email to get it started was in the works. MUCH back and forth to get what we have in mind for out here to be understood but eventually John heard about it all and thought it would be fun! Did I mention that when I wrote the email we were still focused on piñatas? Needless to say, we are hoping that John will also swing out back and get the perverted piñatas started!
We also had an evening somewhat early on about trying to get Hypnotic Clambake onboard as we have our dear friend Sparky coming up to have an impromptu ‘Reunion’ here at Pinegrove for the event “Party in the Pines” and he so wanted them to play! So with many months of figuring it out we finally got them involved too!
But, during all of this, I had been working on all kinds of aspects of the event: Work Barter, Chinese Auction baskets, Vendors, Workshops, Kid’s Programming and the Drink Stand for them to raise funds for the Playground, requirements for what it will take to have it all safely, cleanly, and reasonably happen and smoothly if possible. One of my closet friends, Smokey, had started talks with two people for me; Bill Manspeaker of Green Jelly <AKA: Green Jello> and Alan Whitney of Healing Committee – Both good friends of his as well. Bill has these fairly major plans of having his child on June 15th and his wife wasn’t quite into the Midwife and Birthing Tent idea. But Alan has found that he understands our goals and was interested in helping with areas my networking was weak – Sound guys and Stage Manager; and even some help with getting the word out. With him we added ‘Healing Committee’ and also ‘Electric Church’ came onboard.
One of our newfound Pinegrove Family members, Gio, had wanted to add friends of hers from Wisconsin – ‘The Star Bandits’ – and they joined in. But Ray, the Man of the Property here at Pinegrove, had mentioned ‘SmackDab’ would be a great addition. We jumped on it towards the crunch time of our ‘Bands need to be Confirmed’ Deadline – and they were fast and on top of things! After a short period of time they let us know the details and we were DONE!
But once we got closer to having all the slots full for our goal of 15 bands, we also found that some of the Workshops we had in mind needed to be addressed. I personally Love Fire Spinning! I wanted people to be able to learn how, be able to ask about, and even buy fire spinning toys. ‘Spun Out Fire Productions’ has all that along with hours of beautiful showmanship which they will be sharing with us all! Plus they also will have their Glass Blowing designer onsite too! Saturday we will even have a dedicated time for the kids to have a ‘watch a glass design made’ so they can get a chance to see and ask questions!
‘Learn to Hula Hoop’, ‘Make Your Own Hula Hoop’, ‘Beginner Poi’, ‘Intermediate Poi’, ‘Fire Toys and How They Are Used’ so far are on the list for All Ages; though we will have special times for the Kids too so Adults can learn with less distraction. ‘Making a Hula Hoop’ will have fees for supplies. Kids will have many activities planned for the weekend; Water Balloon Toss, Three Legged Race, Tape the Tail on the Pig, and other cool Games.
One of the things which is HUGE around here is Community. We are quite Proud of the fact we have such an ability to unite so many of diverse background, beliefs, and ways of life. The variety of people and how they mesh is very important as we try to provide many ways for people to interact. The Community bonfire is intended to allow people to share in the drum circle, watch the fire spinners, dance if they choose, but most of all to rejoin the ways of old when the fire brought the Community together. We hope people will decide to go join the Community and have less fires throughout the woods for safety as well. The Community bonfires are manned by Woodbusters who between them have over 100 yrs experience with such things at events.
We talked to our local fire department, Hartfield Fire Co., about doing our First Aid during our event considering it should be a larger turn out for around here. They are all for it and will have their EMT’s and Ambulance onsite.
We have a desire to help our local community regarding the assisted care of larger animals which happen in Chautauqua County. With the Amish being a large part of our everyday lives here, with them being more of what is announced going down the road than cars by my dog, the concern with helping with the horses and other larger animals is a wonder to us often. So when a few of us out here were considering how to “Pay it Forward” while doing this event, we chose to also aim at a Donation being made on behalf of the event to Chautauqua County Humane Society.
And finally, as this has been about Pinegrove and Community – eating a meal, as a group, as a family – is the MAIN reason for this whole thing. Folks bringing a dish to share is HIGHLY appreciated and hoped for. We would need a list of ingredients for allergy purposes if possible; but all is Welcome! John-John has said that we should plan on one pig, 40 lbs of chicken, 20 lbs of hamburgers, and 10 lbs of hotdogs for every 300 people. He has enough equipment to do 6 pigs as of now, so if we hit 1,800 people we have to go allocate another cooker. So knowing how many folks are coming is fairly important!
So out here at Pinegrove we are busy working on all kinds of stuff to have you enjoy your adventure here during our event and planning to have a Stage Opener in September 2014! Hope to see you out here and I will be doing updates via our Facebook Page regularly; come look for us “Pinegrove Private Event Center”!